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[info]anniesj has posted that after a post about President Bush (which is now deleted), she received a visit from the Secret Service

She was told among other things that she was reported by someone on LJ and that she will have an FBI record for life (I can attest to that). For a clear exposition of the fact, I urge you to read her full post.
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pepperjackcandy From: [info]pepperjackcandy Date: October 27th, 2004 10:49 am (UTC) (Link)
What did she say in the original post? I would've asked her directly, but, you know . . .
titti From: [info]titti Date: October 27th, 2004 11:33 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't honestly know. I think they were joking around about how he should be killed.
anniesj From: [info]anniesj Date: October 27th, 2004 11:33 am (UTC) (Link)
I'll answer. :)

The original post was a mock-prayer to God in response to Bush's comment that he could feel it every time Americans prayed for him. I jokingly prayed for an aneurysm, and invited the "prayers" of others. I can see how it was misconstrued as a threat, and I took the post down because, well, others DID share their prayers and I don't want the FBI investigating them, too. If it were just my words, I'd be more than happy to let the thing stand as a good example of what NOT to say on the Internet. ;)
titti From: [info]titti Date: October 27th, 2004 11:35 am (UTC) (Link)
Jesus, that's even less than I thought or imagined you to say. Praying for whatever outcome is viewed as a threat. That's really scary.
pepperjackcandy From: [info]pepperjackcandy Date: October 27th, 2004 11:56 am (UTC) (Link)
Bush's comment that he could feel it every time Americans prayed for him.

You're kidding me. He actually said this?!?

Isn't that a symptom of some kind of mental illness?
snellios From: [info]snellios Date: October 27th, 2004 12:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
oh, what the fuck ever, you can't will someone to death. That's not a fucking threat at all. You can also legally hope that someone dies, so what the fuck is going on.
vasaris From: [info]vasaris Date: October 27th, 2004 12:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
WTF?

*gapes*

That's.. that's... that's not a threat. I can see how way out in Bushian-logic land it might be vaguely construed as one, but... bzuh?

*does a remarkable impression of a landed fish, complete with little fishy manor house and little fishy serfs*
annearchy From: [info]annearchy Date: October 27th, 2004 12:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm so sorry this happened to you (BTW I came by way of [info]pinkfinity). Perhaps the Secret Service should investigate PAT ROBERTSON, who (according to Al Franken's show), asked his followers on the 700 Club to PRAY FOR THE DEATHS OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. Presumably they didn't mean "their" justices, like Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas, but those awful LIBERAL justices like Stevens and Ginsburg.

Sometimes I wonder why George Orwell doesn't just jump out of his grave and LAUGH at the United States :(
From: [info]yonmei Date: October 27th, 2004 03:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Fucking hell.

No, really. What the hell kind of police-state type response is this?
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playingbyheart From: [info]playingbyheart Date: November 3rd, 2004 12:15 am (UTC) (Link)
no. people should be allowed to say that and whatever they want, on the internet or in real life. if we all say it, they'll have fbi files on everyone on lj, but so what? praying for an aneurysm is not the same as saying, "hey everyone, lets go do x y z to bush" --

so you have no clue who turned you in, huh?
From: [info]soeursansmerci Date: November 4th, 2004 01:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
Praying for an aneurysm is NOT a threat against somebody's life, for Pete's sake, and I DON'T understand how they can read it that way. Your comprehension of their "concern for the President's life" is a supreme act of charity on your part.

Lord. What a bunch of raging morons.
xanpet2000 From: [info]xanpet2000 Date: October 27th, 2004 12:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't know where to begin with commenting on this. My gob has rarely been more smacked. I'm not sure I'm going to list all the varied ways in which I might be on someone's list, cos someone might check.

I was seriously worried that I'd be questioned when I entered the States because of my colouring and the fact that I have an Arabic stamp in my passport. But then I thought, don't be mad. That's telly USA not real USA. Real countries don't act like that. I think I'll revise that opinion.

I will say it's kinda lucky he can only feel the prayers of Americans. That lets the rest of us pray in peace.

I pray that every US citizen, on my list and off it, gets to the polls and puts their X in a box. Don't leave your say up to someone else.

That is all,

XP

ruggerdavey From: [info]ruggerdavey Date: October 27th, 2004 12:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Random person here.

So you weren't stopped? Because my sister is as white as white can be, but she gets pulled aside all the time with her boyfriend when traveling between the US and the UK (and vice versa), and he's an American citizen. He was born here. But he has dark coloring and his last name is Mohammed, and, yeah. Not just TV America there.
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madscot From: [info]madscot Date: October 27th, 2004 01:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
not even Orwell went this far! I'm stunned.
titti From: [info]titti Date: October 27th, 2004 02:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's one of those cases vhere reality is stranger (and scarier) than fiction.

Weren't we discussing Orwell not too long ago?
gmth From: [info]gmth Date: October 27th, 2004 03:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
The blame lies with Annie for saying such over the top things to begin with (someone took a screenshot of it --not me! -- which you can read here, and with the asshat who reported her, not with Bush or the Secret Service. You know I hate Bush's guts, but this would have happened no matter who was in office. It's not Orwellian. It's the Secret Service's job.
titti From: [info]titti Date: October 27th, 2004 04:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the screencap. That helps clarify the matter. I hadn't read the original post but based my comment on what was said afterwards.

The joy of screencap, this sounds like a F_W job. LOL
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From: (Anonymous) Date: October 27th, 2004 09:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
What I see as the real issue is the problems it will cause her in the future. You're right. The SS should look into things but when found to be non-threatening her life should not be put in a file. Her life is basically under suspect till she dies. She may be put on the no-fly list, if she voices an opinion again and some other jerk-off takes offence, she'll get another visit...and more paper for her file. The problem is that she will always be suspect from here on in and that is not right. Investigating is what should be done but even when that is over your life is no longer really free. They can do just about anything to her now because she was once deemed a ‘threat’ of some nature. And that, is very wrong.
titti From: [info]titti Date: October 28th, 2004 05:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Unfortunately once you have a file, that's it. Even if she went to court and were able to get this sealed, I doubt that it would ever be. I hear these things and I keep going back to Hoover.
kk_d From: [info]kk_d Date: October 27th, 2004 10:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
titti From: [info]titti Date: October 28th, 2004 05:24 am (UTC) (Link)
Great rant and yes people need to vote, if only to have the right to rant.
cha_cha_cha_ From: [info]cha_cha_cha_ Date: November 1st, 2004 09:43 am (UTC) (Link)
Fuck! That's horrible! That is really screwed up...That's fucking warped...I don't even live in America and I think that's warped...
titti From: [info]titti Date: November 1st, 2004 09:44 am (UTC) (Link)
I live in the US and I agree 100%
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